The rumors are true. If you’re not drinking and smoking before games and focusing on football and your health, results will show. However, these results are ridiculous. Josh Gordon could be an alien for all we know. His left arm looks like a giant pretzel twist.
The narrative for Josh Gordon has always been “If he cleans up his act, he will be a top receiver.” Gordon is 6’3″, 225 pounds (probably more now), and runs a 4.57. He’s got the size and speed, but Gordon also has immense talent. In 2014, Gordon tore it up for the Browns, leading the league with 1,646 yards receiving and scored nine touchdowns. Think about that. While intoxicated in 2013, Gordon was unstoppable for a franchise that started Jason Campbell, Brandon Weeden, and Brian Hoyer at quarterback.
Baker Mayfield sees the potential of Gordon as well.
Saquon Barkley is officially a New York Football Giant.
I said I would be a little bummed for one minute if we didn’t take Sam Darnold. I thought we needed to pick a successor to Eli Manning. Sammy D was the clear cut number one QB in this class. QBs are the most important position on the field and we just passed up on one who has the chance to be very special. It’s a tough pill to swallow.
One minute is over. Now, I don’t feel bad anymore.
Saquon Barkley was the best player in this draft, no ifs, ands, or buts. Saquon is the starter as soon as he puts the pads on. Just like I said Darnold was special, Saquon has a chance to be VERY special. Explosive, breakaway speed, and he can catch out of the backfield? Sign me up. With this pick, the Giants just said we are in “Win now” mode, which as a fan, you have to love. If we can sign Beckham to a longterm deal, we will have a nice 3-5 year window to do some damage. We’ll worry about the QB later, but right now, we have our franchise running back.
It’s March 28, 2018, and the Odell Beckham Jr. roller coaster has not even left the station. If this past week was any indication of what’s to come, we are in for a circus these upcoming months.
Let me start off by saying this. I am a Giants fan so this viewpoint is coming from a RATIONAL fan of Big Blue. It seems that whenever OBJ gets brought up in the media, NY fans decide that since they can pick up a phone and dial a number, that qualifies them to become the next manager of the Giants. Bold strategy. Let’s see if it works.
Going into the 2017 offseason, the writing was on the wall. The contract extension of Odell Beckham was looming. If he put up another landmark year in 2017, there was no doubt in my mind that the Giants would have offered him an extension this offseason, which probably would’ve made Beckham the highest paid WR in the league. In fact, Beckham announced that he wanted to be the highest player in the league in a video with Uninterrupted last Summer.
However, Beckham was injured in the preseason, missed most of the regular season, and sat on the sidelines as the Giants had one of their worst years in franchise history. Despite being injured, Beckham clearly gained leverage because of the putrid offense on the field. Beckham is under contract on the fifth-year option of his deal that is set to pay him $8.46 million. Is it time to pay the man?
If I had to pinpoint when the OBJ offseason saga began, I’d start with Beckham’s tweet about how many preseason snaps he will play in 2018.
100% agree. Beckham should not play any preseason snaps. However, announcing that to the public is not a good idea. This tweet could only hurt him more than it could help him.
Fast forward to the NFL Owners Meetings. If that tweet was the initial spark, these meetings were gasoline on the fire. John Mara, who barely speaks to the media, decided to answer questions about if Odell would be on the team this year.
ESPN – Asked if it was possible that Beckham could be on another team’s roster when the season begins, Mara said: “I can’t answer that one way or the other. We’re certainly not shopping him. Again, when you’re coming off a season when you’re 3-13 and played as poorly as we played, I wouldn’t say that anyone is untouchable.”
WHY? You know that answer would cause controversy. All you needed to say was “Odell will be on our team when the season begins.” Case closed. I don’t even care if it’s a lie. Just say basic and simple answers so the media cannot spin your words or run future reports about a trade.
Too late.
From @gmfb: My understanding is that #Giants WR Odell Beckham Jr will not set foot on a field without a new contract extension agreed to — with the #Giants or any team. … This comes a day after owner John Mara said no one is “untouchable” in trade talks.
The holdout that the Giants dreaded is coming to fruition. It gets worse.
Dave Gettleman on Report Odell Beckham Jr. won’t play without a contract extension: “Yeah, I can read. I got nothing to say.” Said he will talk tomorrow.
BREAKING: The Los Angeles #Rams, according to multiple NFL sources, have talked with the #Giants and are pursuing a possible trade for Odell Beckham Jr. to turn him from a Big Apple phenom into a Hollywood star https://t.co/KduwQAkvdI
#Giants GM Dave Gettleman says “next question” when asked if he wants Odell Beckham on his team. … He won’t respond to whether the #Rams contacted him. Won’t respond to the report that Odell won’t take the field unless he gets a contract extension.
The #Giants are listening to trade calls/talks for Odell Beckham Jr and there have been several, I’m told. @wyche89 says the #Rams No. 23 pick is available. … what’s not clear is whether NY actually wants to trade him. Definitely open to listening, tho
#Giants GM Dave Gettleman said “You don’t quit on talent” when asked about Odell Beckham Jr.
Worth mentioning, Gettleman rescinded the franchise tag on CB Josh Norman and released long time veteran Steve Smith when he was in Carolina. So he has "quit on talent" in the past.
Pat and Dave, WHY? Just say we want Beckham on our team. Say that we are committed to working with Odell this offseason and that we would love to have him back. Say that we want Odell to be a “Giant for life.” Once again, just lie! Don’t give the media nuggets to pick apart. Odell is on the team right now? Right now? So he won’t be on the team in a few months? Awful answers.
Do I think the Giants want to trade Odell Beckham Jr.? No. Do I believe they will listen to offers? Unfortunately, yes. There’s no other reason why Gettleman, Shurmur, and Mara would phrase their answers if they did not want to leave the door open for a trade. As Field Yates said, the Giants sound like a team open for business.
Should the Giants trade Odell?
No.
Should the Giants trade Odell?
Absolutely not.
Odell is not exempt from criticism. His antics both on and off the field have been controversial. Peeing like a dog in Philly, the battle with Josh Norman, the kicking net, and the boat party are not the best look for a superstar who is trying to get paid. Plus, the recent picture of Odell with a model in bed with what appears to be weed and cocaine strengthens the “distraction” argument.
It’s clear that John Mara and Odell don’t see eye to eye. The Giants are highly regarded as one of the most respected organizations in the league so Odell’s antics go against the values of Mara Family. It’s clear that John Mara and Odell don’t see eye to eye. Can they works thing out? I’m not sure.
The immaturity issues and outbursts on the field are valid. However, these issues are not giant red flags that scream “trade.” I would counter that Odell has never failed a drug test nor has he never been accused of domestic violence. What some might view as outbursts, I view as an extremely passionate guy who lets his emotions get the best of him. Odell plays very hard and it shows on the field. Plus, Odell is constantly dissected by the media for every decision he makes and sometimes, it’s very unfair. Le’Veon Bell discusses holding out the past few years and the city of Pittsburgh rallies behind him. Odell talks about being the highest paid player in the league and fans turn on him, calling him selfish and a bum. These fans that call Odell a bum are the same fans that buy his jersey and high-five their friends after he scores his 3rd touchdown of the game.
Speaking of touchdowns, I will not sit here any longer and let people say that the Giants are a better team without Odell Beckham on the field. What planet are these people on? I can tell you one thing, it’s not Earth. The numbers don’t lie.
If you want to know why the Giants won’t trade Odell Beckham, these are Eli Manning’s stats with and without Odell on the field over the last three seasons: pic.twitter.com/yCynKTU3UI
“The Giants won Super Bowls before without a true top receiver.”
"The Giants don't need Odell. They won two Super Bowls without a true top receiver." This fake excuse needs to end now. Plaxico Burress was tied for 4th in receiving TDs with 12 in 2007. Victor Cruz was 3rd in receiving yards in 2011 with 1,536. Get out of here #giants
I do not think the Giants should trade Odell Beckham. However, if they received a king’s ransom like Carl Banks tweeted out, the Giants would have to listen to it, no doubt about it. 5 draft picks for one player? I want Odell to stay, but that is a trade worth discussing.
I've been told by a source that a team is willing to offer their next 3yrs of 1st rounders a 2nd 3rd this year for OBJ. Will the #NYG pull the trigger pic.twitter.com/rdh3l57v0V
With all that being said, Odell Beckham Jr. is a once in a generation talent. Besides Antonio Brown and possibly Julio Jones (depending on your preference), there is no receiver more talented and game changing than Odell. Thinking about all of the drama in the coming months makes me sick.
The time for dancing around questions is over. Pay the man or trade the man. No more half measures.
Compensation update: Giants are trading their fourth-round pick and their sixth-round pick in return for LB Alec Ogletree and the Rams' 2019 seventh-round pick, per source.
Woah. I did not see this coming, but let’s go! Davey G getting to work!
This is a great pickup for the Giants. If you were to breakdown the positions that the Gmen need to address in the offseason, offensive line, running back, and linebacker would be at the top. Ever since the days of Antonio Pierce, the Giants have been craving a linebacker to lead the defense. Jon Beason was a decent fill in, but I wouldn’t call him a stud. It seems like every year has been a revolving door at linebacker with too many names to mention.
New Defensive Coordinator James Bettcher runs a 3-4 so his scheme relies heavily on linebackers so with the addition of Ogletree, the Gmen have found an elite inside linebacker. Ogletree has been a starter since he came into the league in 2013. He was 2nd team All-Pro in 2016 with 136 combined tackles. Last year, he had a combined 95 tackles. Ogletree is 26 years old and entering the prime of his career. This is EXACTLY the type of linebacker that we need.
Cons? It’s a little weird that the Rams would trade him after he signed a 4 year, $42m extension about 5 months ago. He’s not a cheap player and we did give up two draft picks this year. That being said, this trade is so worth it for Big Blue. After getting embarrassed on defense last year, I will take all the of the studs that we can get. Great move for the Giants.
Now, back to our regularly scheduled debate of Saquon or a quarterback.
BREAKING: @VinceMcMahon will announce later today that his investment company @alphaentllc will start a pro football league. Announcement will be made at 3pm ET on company’s social media pages.
Great news today. The XFL is coming back. Why? Your guess is as good as mine! That being said, it’s more football and that’s never a bad thing. Since I watched the 30 For 30 on the XFL, I’m an expert on the matter of why it failed. The league just seemed way before its time and the competition on the field had a lot to do with it. You can try to make new rules, but the game still has to resemble football. There is no way Vince is creating this league again to “fail.” Vince has to have a new plan with new investors to capitalize on his mistakes from his previous go-around.
The XFL has the right idea in terms of what it wants to do, which is to become a successful alternative to the NFL. They just have to make sure the product on the field doesn’t become a cheap gimmick. If the competition is good and it’s exciting, people will watch. The league needs to attract young, exciting players. There’s no reason why they shouldn’t recruit former NFL stars with big contracts. Johnny Manziel, RG3, Tim Tebow. These players will bring people to the stadiums. Make your season from June to August so fans will get the taste of football that they have been missing. The XFL will be the perfect lead in to college football and the NFL. However, I’m praying the XFL brings back some of the old rules.
If you were able to stay up past midnight, you saw one of the best finishes to a football game that you’ll ever see. Alabama with the walk-off touchdown to defeat Georgia 26-23 to win the College Football Playoff.
Ok, it was not the greatest college football finish ever, but it was a pretty exciting second half as opposed to that boring first half. Seriously, if you love punting, missed kicks, and stalled drive, the first half was your heaven. Georgia went into halftime up 13-0, but it should’ve been worse and I’m sure they’re kicking themselves for it.
Down 13-0, what does Nick Saban do that NO OTHER COACH in college football would do? He benches his starting QB, Jalen Hurts, for a true freshman, Tua Tagovailoa, who had not received a meaningful snap all year. The word on Tua was that this kid can spin the rock. He came from the same high school as Marcus Mariota. However, Jalen Hurts was 25-2 with National Title on his resume and Nick Saban pulled him for a true freshman. There’s a reason why he’s the best coach of all-time and has 6 national titles with 5 of them in the past 9 years.
It worked. Tua went OFF. Georgia had no answer for him because honestly, they never saw him on tape so they didn’t know what to expect. Tua was fearless, standing in the pocket, lowering his shoulder on big runs, and brought the Tide all the way back into the game. They even had a chance to win it in regulation…
November, 28 2017 – I am embarrassed to be a New York Giants fan.
What a sad day to be a Giants fan. This is rock bottom. I’m at a loss for words. You know what? Scratch that. I have too many words to say about how this decision is the worst organizational move in over a decade. Yes, this is worse than forcing Tom Coughlin out of town, which honestly, I got over the move because it was best for both parties. I didn’t like how it happened with Coughlin because he should not have been forced to resign. He deserved to finish his contract, but that was then and this is now.
Now, Eli Manning has been benched for Geno Smith and eventually, Davis Webb. For starters, if you blame Eli Manning for this season, you haven’t been watching the games. Eli has not played well, but do you see what he’s working with? 19 players are on injured reserve. Beckham, Marshall, and Harris are hurt. Shepherd has missed 4 games. They have no running game. The offensive line can’t block. You can’t make chicken salad with chicken shit so how can you expect Eli to win games? I haven’t even mentioned the defense yet.
We know the writing was on the wall. Eli Manning had 1, maybe 2 years left as the Giants QB. He’s been the epitome of class. He helped us win 2 Super Bowls. He has started for over 200 games. Eli gets crushed every week. Takes big hit after big hit. Gets destroyed in the media on a regular basis. And yet, he shows up to work each and everyday. ELI. SHOWS. UP. That’s something that no one else on this team can say. Yet, Eli and his legacy were just shit on.
Eli Manning built this whole organization for the past decade. Everyone who has ever had a job in the Giants organization should thank Eli Manning. I’m looking at you, Jerry Reese.
This is why this decision hurts.
Today is the official start of the end of Eli Manning’s time with the Giants.
Eli gave his blood, sweat, and tears for this franchise. He does not deserve this. The man has won 2 Super Bowl MVPs. He’s started over 200 games straight and he gets benched…………………………………………………..
Eli Manning is a Hall of Famer. He does not deserve this disrespectful treatment. Ben McAdoo just said in his press conference that “Geno Smith gives us the best chance to win this week.” Excuse me while I destroy this computer. I’m so embarrassed right now. I do not care if Geno Smith wins every game by more than 100 points. This move is such a slap in the face to Eli. To think Ben even offered Eli the chance to start just to keep his streak in tact. Hmmm you said you were going to bench the guy, but you’re giving him the opportunity keep his streak alive by starting him for a half? Why would Eli accept that offer? Good for Eli. He should take that offer and throw it back in McAdoo’s face.
Eli, I truly wish you the best. You deserve so much better than to be disrespected by the team who you have given your everything to. I hope you go somewhere else where you have a chance to win. I seriously mean that. Escape this dumpster fire right now. However, I know you are too classy to ever speak badly about the Giants. That’s why you are best.
Why Ben, why? The defense just got slaughtered by the Rams, giving up the most points, 51, at the Meadowlands in franchise history. Yet, it’s Tuesday morning, and all people can talk about is the “quarterback controversy.” Eli is my dude and he deserves his fair share of blame. The last couple games have been hopeless because of injuries, but those first 5 games could’ve changed our season had we won a few instead of lost. Eli did not play well in a few of those games and you know who would be the first to tell you that? Eli Manning, because that’s the type of guy he is, one who takes responsibility.
That being said, you can’t make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Look at what Eli has had to work with. Beckham and Marshall are done for the year and Shepherd has been injury prone. Running game? Nope. Offensive line? Bigger nope. Defense wearing down and playing crappy? Absolutely. Locker room problems? Hell yes. COACHING PROBLEMS? YOU BET! We won 11 games last year. We’re a talented team. It just hasn’t worked out this year. That’s baseball, Suzyn. This has been a season from hell, but to say this is all on Eli is ludicrous.
Eli Manning is the starting quarterback and it should remain that way until his contract runs out. Despite having no weapons, Eli has compiled the highest completion percentage and the lowest interception percentage of his career. He’s still a top 20 QB and that’s with me as the number 1 receiver. Imagine if he was on a team in contention? You don’t think the Jaguars, Bills, Ravens, Dolphins, and Texans would love to have Eli right about now? Eli has earned this job through his talent, toughness, and ability to come through when the pressure is at an all-time high. It’s a slap in the face to bench him.
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Eli Manning is the starting quarterback of this team, but Davis Webb needs to play. The Rams were beating us by 30 last week. Why didn’t Davis come in during the 4th quarter? There’s no reason for Eli to be out there. Zero. We can’t win and we need Eli healthy. Eli playing during blowouts helps no one. I’ll tell you who it would help: David Webb. We spent a 3rd round pick on the kid so obviously management sees some potential. Let’s see what the kid has to offer in a regular season game. I’m not saying he is the heir apparent to Eli, but it doesn’t hurt to see if Davis can play in the big leagues. We’ve got absolutely nothing to lose.
What I would do: Treat the second half of every game like it’s the preseason. If we’re down by less than 20, Eli plays, no questions asked. If we’re losing by more than 20, Davis Webb plays. Eli is still the starter, but Webb gets his playing time. I think that’s the compromise that needs to happen in a season that belongs in the toilet.
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